Comments on: Scriptures That Made Me Catholic http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/ Random Thoughts of a Catholic Convert Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:35:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Anonymous http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-713 Anonymous Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:49:53 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-713 <strong>Yellow Gift box...</strong> U CZ gold 13mm Green OK Italian Charm Cupidon on red heart... Yellow Gift box…

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]]> By: admin http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-18 admin Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:45:26 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-18 Great point Randy. Arguments can be won, but what is the end result? Unfortunately, you can point out that 1+1=2 (which is the same logic level as Sola Scripture imo), but if that is not the way it is worded in the "original" King James Version of the Bible, many will seemingly never be convinced. Luckily I had the Scott Hahn tapes (that's right tapes - no Mp3 or CDs!) that just melted away any doubts I had. I am also fortunate that I grew up in a very anti-Catholic area of the USA - eventually I figured something out: the only thing that holds all these different denominations together is their animosity toward the Catholic Church. "I better go and find out about this 'sect' as they called it. Great point Randy. Arguments can be won, but what is the end result? Unfortunately, you can point out that 1+1=2 (which is the same logic level as Sola Scripture imo), but if that is not the way it is worded in the “original” King James Version of the Bible, many will seemingly never be convinced.

Luckily I had the Scott Hahn tapes (that’s right tapes - no Mp3 or CDs!) that just melted away any doubts I had.

I am also fortunate that I grew up in a very anti-Catholic area of the USA - eventually I figured something out: the only thing that holds all these different denominations together is their animosity toward the Catholic Church. “I better go and find out about this ’sect’ as they called it.

]]> By: Randy http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-17 Randy Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:05:38 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-17 I don't know how easy it is. I can win arguments but I have great trouble actually convincing people. There are such deep assumptions there. To get people to really question them is very hard. I know it was hard for me. I had an advantage of being in a Catholic community for years and I still found it hard. I think simple is very different from easy. Simple truths can be very hard to live out. I don’t know how easy it is. I can win arguments but I have great trouble actually convincing people. There are such deep assumptions there. To get people to really question them is very hard. I know it was hard for me. I had an advantage of being in a Catholic community for years and I still found it hard.

I think simple is very different from easy. Simple truths can be very hard to live out.

]]> By: admin http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-16 admin Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:33:23 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-16 I agree with John that simplicity is critical. This is why I really believe that Sola Scriptura is such an "easy" issue to discuss with any Protestant. It pulls at their most fundamental tenet, yet makes so much good, logical, common sense. I agree with John that simplicity is critical. This is why I really believe that Sola Scriptura is such an “easy” issue to discuss with any Protestant. It pulls at their most fundamental tenet, yet makes so much good, logical, common sense.

]]> By: Randy http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-15 Randy Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:58:52 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-15 It isn't so much simplicity as choice. Some brands of protestantism are very complex. Still it all boils down to what you WANT to accept. Catholicism gives you no choice. This is what you would expect from Christianity if it really had the truth about God. It would not come in 1001 flavors. It would just be. It isn’t so much simplicity as choice. Some brands of protestantism are very complex. Still it all boils down to what you WANT to accept. Catholicism gives you no choice. This is what you would expect from Christianity if it really had the truth about God. It would not come in 1001 flavors. It would just be.

]]> By: John Salmon http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-14 John Salmon Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:48:26 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-14 Simplicity-that's the key. It's easier, in many ways, to "sell" evangelicalism, especially in the US. You mentioned EWTN-I've been watching that network a lot of late, and I've been struck with how little appeal their often serious, in-depth discussion of Christian truth is likely to have on mass (no pun intended) audiences, compared with the superficiality of most evangelical/fundamentalist programming. Not that EWTN should dumb down its programming. But in some critical ways, evangelicals have dumbed down theology, increasing its appeal but reducing its fullness. Simplicity-that’s the key. It’s easier, in many ways, to “sell” evangelicalism, especially in the US. You mentioned EWTN-I’ve been watching that network a lot of late, and I’ve been struck with how little appeal their often serious, in-depth discussion of Christian truth is likely to have on mass (no pun intended) audiences, compared with the superficiality of most evangelical/fundamentalist programming.

Not that EWTN should dumb down its programming. But in some critical ways, evangelicals have dumbed down theology, increasing its appeal but reducing its fullness.

]]> By: purifyyourbride http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-5 purifyyourbride Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:36:38 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-5 I was often struck by the number of things that were tied to salvation. Not only baptism but the Eucharist and then serving the poor. There seemed to be a lot. The idea that faith is the only thing that matters at all seemed so simple. The picture the bible was painting was much more complex. The analogy of joining a family helped. There are a bunch of things tied in with being in a family but they all come as a package. Then why wouldn't that family have authority? Maybe a father figure having the final say. What church has that concept? I was often struck by the number of things that were tied to salvation. Not only baptism but the Eucharist and then serving the poor. There seemed to be a lot. The idea that faith is the only thing that matters at all seemed so simple. The picture the bible was painting was much more complex. The analogy of joining a family helped. There are a bunch of things tied in with being in a family but they all come as a package. Then why wouldn’t that family have authority? Maybe a father figure having the final say. What church has that concept?

]]> By: John Salmon http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-4 John Salmon Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:32:53 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-4 All the verses that refer to baptism as being essential to salvation ended up having a big effect on me. Even in my evangelical days, the explanation of, "Well, faith is always mentioned, but baptism isn't, so faith is what matters" seemed weak to me, but I didn't seriously question it. It struck me that on this, as with so many other issues, the evangelical position was to eliminate apparent contradictions by simply picking one side or other of a controversy, instead of harmonizing the differences. And I see from Christianity Today that Calvinism is having something of a revival, so the pendulum is now swinging in that direction. All the verses that refer to baptism as being essential to salvation ended up having a big effect on me.

Even in my evangelical days, the explanation of, “Well, faith is always mentioned, but baptism isn’t, so faith is what matters” seemed weak to me, but I didn’t seriously question it.

It struck me that on this, as with so many other issues, the evangelical position was to eliminate apparent contradictions by simply picking one side or other of a controversy, instead of harmonizing the differences.

And I see from Christianity Today that Calvinism is having something of a revival, so the pendulum is now swinging in that direction.

]]> By: purifyyourbride http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-3 purifyyourbride Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:59:18 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-3 Sorry for the moderation enabled thing. I didn't realize I had that turned on and haven't yet figured out how to turn it off. I would prefer to just let people comment. Yes, a place for everyone to post their texts would be interesting. I expect people to have more than one and for there to be quite a bit of overlap. Sorry for the moderation enabled thing. I didn’t realize I had that turned on and haven’t yet figured out how to turn it off. I would prefer to just let people comment.

Yes, a place for everyone to post their texts would be interesting. I expect people to have more than one and for there to be quite a bit of overlap.

]]> By: RinglerC http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-2 RinglerC Mon, 01 Jan 2007 06:37:06 +0000 http://purifyyourbride.stblogs.com/2006/12/30/scriptures-that-made-me-catholic/#comment-2 Maybe you ought to post a blog asking people to submit what verses they felt led them to the Church. For me it was 2nd. Peter 3:17. "there are certain things difficult to understand, which the unlearned and the unstable distort, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures also, to their own destruction." This verse made me realize that we need a specific, recognizable authority to determine what is the correct, authentic interpretation of Scripture. Maybe you ought to post a blog asking people to submit what verses they felt led them to the Church.

For me it was 2nd. Peter 3:17.

“there are certain things difficult to understand, which the unlearned and the unstable distort, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures also, to their own destruction.”

This verse made me realize that we need a specific, recognizable authority to determine what is the correct, authentic interpretation of Scripture.

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